| Message ID | 20190214221715.10714-1-ludo@gnu.org |
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| Series | Ensure Guix always has 'glibc-utf8-locales' | expand |
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 11:17:15PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hello Guix, > > After hearing about so many bad first impressions due to missing locales, > I decided to bite the bullet. I still don’t consider the approach > really satisfying, in particular due to the arbitrary locale selection > in ‘glibc-utf8-locales’, but the benefits are worth it IMO (I feel like > I’ve been too obtuse on this topic, and I’m sorry about that!). Okay, I think it's the right thing to do. We are constantly having to explain the locales warning on IRC. > The closure size of the ‘guix’ package increases like this: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > $ guix size guix | tail -1 > total: 354.2 MiB > $ guix size guix glibc-utf8-locales | tail -1 > total: 368.0 MiB > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > That’s a 4% increase, not that bad. It's worth it.
Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> writes: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 11:17:15PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote: >> Hello Guix, >> >> After hearing about so many bad first impressions due to missing locales, >> I decided to bite the bullet. I still don’t consider the approach >> really satisfying, in particular due to the arbitrary locale selection >> in ‘glibc-utf8-locales’, but the benefits are worth it IMO (I feel like >> I’ve been too obtuse on this topic, and I’m sorry about that!). > > Okay, I think it's the right thing to do. We are constantly having to > explain the locales warning on IRC. This ensures that Guix itself works without these warnings. It doesn’t have an effect on installed applications, though, does it? (That’s fine.) >> The closure size of the ‘guix’ package increases like this: >> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> $ guix size guix | tail -1 >> total: 354.2 MiB >> $ guix size guix glibc-utf8-locales | tail -1 >> total: 368.0 MiB >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >> >> That’s a 4% increase, not that bad. > > It's worth it. I agree. Thank you, Ludo, for reconsidering and implementing this!
Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis: > Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> writes: > >> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 11:17:15PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote: >>> Hello Guix, >>> >>> After hearing about so many bad first impressions due to missing locales, >>> I decided to bite the bullet. I still don’t consider the approach >>> really satisfying, in particular due to the arbitrary locale selection >>> in ‘glibc-utf8-locales’, but the benefits are worth it IMO (I feel like >>> I’ve been too obtuse on this topic, and I’m sorry about that!). >> >> Okay, I think it's the right thing to do. We are constantly having to >> explain the locales warning on IRC. > > This ensures that Guix itself works without these warnings. It doesn’t > have an effect on installed applications, though, does it? (That’s fine.) No it doesn’t; users still have to install ‘glibc-utf8-locales’ or ‘glibc-locales’ and set GUIX_LOCPATH for those. However it occurred to me that warnings by Guix itself were the most pressing issue: that’s basically the first message Guix would print. >>> The closure size of the ‘guix’ package increases like this: >>> >>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >>> $ guix size guix | tail -1 >>> total: 354.2 MiB >>> $ guix size guix glibc-utf8-locales | tail -1 >>> total: 368.0 MiB >>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >>> >>> That’s a 4% increase, not that bad. >> >> It's worth it. > > I agree. > > Thank you, Ludo, for reconsidering and implementing this! Done! ba48895899 self: Bundle 'glibc-utf8-locales'. 8a973abc6f gnu: guix: Embed 'glibc-utf8-locales'. Thank you, Ludo’.